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Due to the time constraints, we needed to get quickly a firm ground on which we could work, so as to be able to understand how our biological system could behave and to give direction to the lab. We then needed a model for which we had an good idea of the parameters involved and that would enable us to understand the dynamics involved, as well as the respective influences of the different genes of the cascade. | Due to the time constraints, we needed to get quickly a firm ground on which we could work, so as to be able to understand how our biological system could behave and to give direction to the lab. We then needed a model for which we had an good idea of the parameters involved and that would enable us to understand the dynamics involved, as well as the respective influences of the different genes of the cascade. | ||
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- | That is the reason why we intended to find models in bibliography. This has provided us with coherent values for our parameters. We were then able to make up a suitable reasoning. The most concrete use of this can be seen in the way we put the genes FliL, FlgA and FlhB (faire lien avec l’autre page). In fact, we found an interesting model of these interactions in [[Team:Paris/Modeling/BOB#Bibliography|Shiraz Kalir and Uri Alon article]]. Whether this could be adapted for our system since the parameters were obtained in conditions that might be different to those we use, was of petty interest! Indeed, what we could use was that FlhDC and FliA influenced in different ways over the three class two genes. This understanding helped us deciding[[Team:Paris/Modeling/BOB/First_Subsystem# | + | That is the reason why we intended to find models in bibliography. This has provided us with coherent values for our parameters. We were then able to make up a suitable reasoning. The most concrete use of this can be seen in the way we put the genes FliL, FlgA and FlhB (faire lien avec l’autre page). In fact, we found an interesting model of these interactions in [[Team:Paris/Modeling/BOB#Bibliography|Shiraz Kalir and Uri Alon article]]. Whether this could be adapted for our system since the parameters were obtained in conditions that might be different to those we use, was of petty interest! Indeed, what we could use was that FlhDC and FliA influenced in different ways over the three class two genes. This understanding helped us deciding[[Team:Paris/Modeling/BOB/First_Subsystem#Which_gene_goes_where|the order of the FIFO genes]], since we got firmly established arguments that led us to thinking this was the best order. |
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Furthermore, this model enabled us to explain which step of the model had little chance to be realized, and which had a greater chance of success. This was of the utmost importance in the strategy of the project. Knowing that we had no infinite time at our disposal, this helped us fix our goals and our priorities. | Furthermore, this model enabled us to explain which step of the model had little chance to be realized, and which had a greater chance of success. This was of the utmost importance in the strategy of the project. Knowing that we had no infinite time at our disposal, this helped us fix our goals and our priorities. |
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IntroductionWhy did we come up with two models? We wondered whether this was the reluctant question. Indeed, should not we rather question the choice of a single model? We shall here describe the story of our model, and show why it appeared absolutely essential to us to build this dual approach, where both models interact between themselves and beget constructive and purposeful exchanges with the wet lab. Why a double model is an absolutely necessary base to work with?As in the industry, where one is asked to propose various technical solutions while developing a project, we decided to propose two models in the mathematical description process. In fact, with a single mathematical model, the description and results obtained are most often biased, by the assumptions that ground the model.
What are the respective goals fulfilled?The topical question, as far as biological systems are concerned, is that yet there is no existing formalism: the “absolute and irrefutable truth” has not yet been found. For instance, everyone knows how to model gravity on earth as well as on the moon. However, no one has ever listed the way fliL behaved depending on the surrounding environment, because it depends on too many elements: which promoter, which concentrations, which pH, which temperature… Today this list seems endless.
BOB: based on bibliography approachDue to the time constraints, we needed to get quickly a firm ground on which we could work, so as to be able to understand how our biological system could behave and to give direction to the lab. We then needed a model for which we had an good idea of the parameters involved and that would enable us to understand the dynamics involved, as well as the respective influences of the different genes of the cascade.
APE: A Parameter Estimation ApproachThis approach met other demands. In fact, our APE approach was built so as to fit more closely to the biological reality. The goal here was to understand the biological process that occurred, and try to translate it into an exploitable mathematical formalism.
What model should I choose in which case?It is not a mystery that the pet hate for a mathematician consists in determining the parameters he wishes to use. As we saw throughout the previous explanations, when one decides to go deeper in his mathematical translation of reality, he automatically adds new parameters. Assuming that for example one gets a 10% error when determining a parameter, what is the error made when he has three times more parameters? We directly understand that there is an optimization question that lies under this phenomenon.
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